Comments on: New Frankford Community Y Stakeholders Meeting http://frankfordgazette.com/2010/04/20/new-frankford-community-y-stakeholders-meeting/ Covering the Great Neighborhood in Northeast Philadelphia Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:08:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: crazymommy http://frankfordgazette.com/2010/04/20/new-frankford-community-y-stakeholders-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-8333 crazymommy Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:01:48 +0000 http://frankfordgazette.com/?p=4964#comment-8333 You don't have to be sold on Chaka he is already voted in, not going anywhere you are stuck with him and all the other corrupt Democrats the voters keep in office. The piont is you can't say these people are outsiders because one works in Frankford and the other was elected to represent part of it. By the standard of calling Bannister an outsider that resides in NL, you can call Tobin an outsider too who resides in Torresdale. Every Democrat leader in the city is being investigated for something. To me it comes down to Frankford getting back a resource that has been lost. There is no one else looking to turn this into a community center. It is this plan or the place sits and rots. To me having the place up and running again is better than having a blighted eyesore that will need to be demolished later like we had with Overington Park years ago. You don’t have to be sold on Chaka he is already voted in, not going anywhere you are stuck with him and all the other corrupt Democrats the voters keep in office. The piont is you can’t say these people are outsiders because one works in Frankford and the other was elected to represent part of it. By the standard of calling Bannister an outsider that resides in NL, you can call Tobin an outsider too who resides in Torresdale. Every Democrat leader in the city is being investigated for something. To me it comes down to Frankford getting back a resource that has been lost. There is no one else looking to turn this into a community center. It is this plan or the place sits and rots. To me having the place up and running again is better than having a blighted eyesore that will need to be demolished later like we had with Overington Park years ago.

]]> By: Anonymous http://frankfordgazette.com/2010/04/20/new-frankford-community-y-stakeholders-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-8331 Anonymous Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:48:29 +0000 http://frankfordgazette.com/?p=4964#comment-8331 Isnt Chaka the same politican that is being investigated about the use of federal grant money that has flowed into his program, CORE Philly? now his nephew is going to get grants for the Y? Sorry I'm not sold, not sold at all. Isnt Chaka the same politican that is being investigated about the use of federal grant money that has flowed into his program, CORE Philly? now his nephew is going to get grants for the Y? Sorry I’m not sold, not sold at all.

]]> By: Lorraine http://frankfordgazette.com/2010/04/20/new-frankford-community-y-stakeholders-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-8330 Lorraine Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:40:18 +0000 http://frankfordgazette.com/?p=4964#comment-8330 Re: My statement regarding contractors working in my home. Sorry, I should have been more clear. What I meant was I would never do business with anyone who did not have their physical address either on their letterhead, business card or available through a google search. Re: My statement regarding contractors working in my home. Sorry, I should have been more clear. What I meant was I would never do business with anyone who did not have their physical address either on their letterhead, business card or available through a google search.

]]> By: crazymommy http://frankfordgazette.com/2010/04/20/new-frankford-community-y-stakeholders-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-8329 crazymommy Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:10:13 +0000 http://frankfordgazette.com/?p=4964#comment-8329 They attended a FCDC meeting and have met with all the local elected officials. Chaka is the person the locals voted for to represent them and Mr Bannister certainly is a local bussines person regardless of his home address. Terry Tobin doesn't live in Frankford either so does that mean he shouldn't have a say? They went to plenty of meetings and if they missed Danny Savage's civic meeting so what? They still met with plenty of others, way more than any for profit group I have ever seen in Frankford. They are not contractors so I don't where you are going with that. And they do have an office it is located in the apartment building they run behind the Y off of Arrott Street. The annual audits of all 501-c-3 organizations are public record any one including Mr Howell can see them. They attended a FCDC meeting and have met with all the local elected officials. Chaka is the person the locals voted for to represent them and Mr Bannister certainly is a local bussines person regardless of his home address. Terry Tobin doesn’t live in Frankford either so does that mean he shouldn’t have a say? They went to plenty of meetings and if they missed Danny Savage’s civic meeting so what? They still met with plenty of others, way more than any for profit group I have ever seen in Frankford. They are not contractors so I don’t where you are going with that. And they do have an office it is located in the apartment building they run behind the Y off of Arrott Street. The annual audits of all 501-c-3 organizations are public record any one including Mr Howell can see them.

]]> By: Lorraine http://frankfordgazette.com/2010/04/20/new-frankford-community-y-stakeholders-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-8324 Lorraine Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:46:58 +0000 http://frankfordgazette.com/?p=4964#comment-8324 The Y was a "black" thing for many years. I used the facilities at the Y 3 days a week for many years up until the day they closed the doors. I've lived in Frankford, a racially diverse community, for many years. Please don't play the race card. Having a vision of Frankford that may be different than yours has nothing to do with race. Some used the race card against Kevin Phalen because some thought he was trying to turn Frankford into an all white neighborhood with the vision he had of Frankford. Using the race card simply tries to stop dialogue. Moving On: The BRT is not up to date on their postings, I agree, however there is a sale posting of another property on Leiper St. dated Jan. 2010. This is a simple matter of asking NFD why Grand Leiper Apts. is still showing as the owner. Being a nephew of an elected official and living in Northern Liberties does not make you a resident or business person in Frankford. NFD only showed up for one public meeting, that I'm aware of. The first meeting at Northwood Civic where they introduced their plan for the Y. However they did not show up for the meeting at Frankford Civic. The meeting at the restaurant last friday was not a public meeting. Ms. Sanchez and Mr. Payton were very wary of this project months ago due to lack of funding. Do they now have the funding? If you read their proposal they mention providing services to people in Recovery Homes. It was only when Mr. Clay voiced concern about providing these services that they took a step back on this. However, not being at the dinner last friday and just reading their proposal, my impression is that providing services to people in recovery facilities is an important part of their plan. If Barry Howell can see the financial records of the Y for free, perhaps you should contact him and let him know how to go about securing those records, it would save a lot of time and money. Regarding their business address and phone line: I would never hire a contractor to do a job in my home that did not show me proof of a physical address (not a P.O. Box). The Y was a “black” thing for many years. I used the facilities at the Y 3 days a week for many years up until the day they closed the doors. I’ve lived in Frankford, a racially diverse community, for many years. Please don’t play the race card. Having a vision of Frankford that may be different than yours has nothing to do with race. Some used the race card against Kevin Phalen because some thought he was trying to turn Frankford into an all white neighborhood with the vision he had of Frankford. Using the race card simply tries to stop dialogue.

Moving On:

The BRT is not up to date on their postings, I agree, however there is a sale posting of another property on Leiper St. dated Jan. 2010. This is a simple matter of asking NFD why Grand Leiper Apts. is still showing as the owner.

Being a nephew of an elected official and living in Northern Liberties does not make you a resident or business person in Frankford.

NFD only showed up for one public meeting, that I’m aware of. The first meeting at Northwood Civic where they introduced their plan for the Y. However they did not show up for the meeting at Frankford Civic. The meeting at the restaurant last friday was not a public meeting.

Ms. Sanchez and Mr. Payton were very wary of this project months ago due to lack of funding. Do they now have the funding?

If you read their proposal they mention providing services to people in Recovery Homes. It was only when Mr. Clay voiced concern about providing these services that they took a step back on this. However, not being at the dinner last friday and just reading their proposal, my impression is that providing services to people in recovery facilities is an important part of their plan.

If Barry Howell can see the financial records of the Y for free, perhaps you should contact him and let him know how to go about securing those records, it would save a lot of time and money.

Regarding their business address and phone line: I would never hire a contractor to do a job in my home that did not show me proof of a physical address (not a P.O. Box).

]]> By: crazymommy http://frankfordgazette.com/2010/04/20/new-frankford-community-y-stakeholders-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-8322 crazymommy Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:10:09 +0000 http://frankfordgazette.com/?p=4964#comment-8322 Actually, my perfectly legit business has no office or landline as do many others. It is not nessasary to have that burden for many types of business. The Y always had group meetings for recovery house residents and non recovery house residents alike. The Y's financial audits are and have always been available for review by the public as are all non profit's annual audits. No law suit to see them was needed and why Barry Howel is trying to cause a problem I don't know, seems like a waste of time and money when he can just see the audits for free. As for being outsiders Mr Bannister is the nephew of a local elected official (Chaka) and the records of the BRT are not nor have they ever been up to date that is public knowlege. They do in fact own and have an office in the multi unit apartment building they run behind the Y and it has a landline. That number has been given out at public meetings and on the message board here. As far as investigating them goes, They have shown all their cards, bent over backwards to go to public meetings with every civic organization and public official thety could find here and made every effort with all due diligence to make sure everyone knows exactly what is going on there and that is more than other for profit groups have done in Frankford. I think all the suspicion and doubt is partly race motivated by people who don't want the Y to be a "black" thing. These are the same black democrats that Frankford voted in to office to run the city and Y is in the city. So where is the problem? Actually, my perfectly legit business has no office or landline as do many others. It is not nessasary to have that burden for many types of business. The Y always had group meetings for recovery house residents and non recovery house residents alike. The Y’s financial audits are and have always been available for review by the public as are all non profit’s annual audits. No law suit to see them was needed and why Barry Howel is trying to cause a problem I don’t know, seems like a waste of time and money when he can just see the audits for free. As for being outsiders Mr Bannister is the nephew of a local elected official (Chaka) and the records of the BRT are not nor have they ever been up to date that is public knowlege. They do in fact own and have an office in the multi unit apartment building they run behind the Y and it has a landline. That number has been given out at public meetings and on the message board here. As far as investigating them goes, They have shown all their cards, bent over backwards to go to public meetings with every civic organization and public official thety could find here and made every effort with all due diligence to make sure everyone knows exactly what is going on there and that is more than other for profit groups have done in Frankford. I think all the suspicion and doubt is partly race motivated by people who don’t want the Y to be a “black” thing. These are the same black democrats that Frankford voted in to office to run the city and Y is in the city. So where is the problem?

]]> By: Lorraine http://frankfordgazette.com/2010/04/20/new-frankford-community-y-stakeholders-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-8320 Lorraine Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:59:37 +0000 http://frankfordgazette.com/?p=4964#comment-8320 The BRT's website does show new ownership on Leiper St. as of Jan. 2010 for another property. The NFD claims they bought that apartment complex prior to 2010. The letterhead of NFD shows a P.O. Box in Darby and phone numbers that look like cell phones. Most legal businesses have an address, not a post office box, and office land line telephones. Please folks, lets really investigate these people. The BRT’s website does show new ownership on Leiper St. as of Jan. 2010 for another property. The NFD claims they bought that apartment complex prior to 2010.

The letterhead of NFD shows a P.O. Box in Darby and phone numbers that look like cell phones. Most legal businesses have an address, not a post office box, and office land line telephones.

Please folks, lets really investigate these people.

]]> By: Jim http://frankfordgazette.com/2010/04/20/new-frankford-community-y-stakeholders-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-8319 Jim Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:27:39 +0000 http://frankfordgazette.com/?p=4964#comment-8319 I'm not sure, but I think the BRT's website is old, I already emailed Ms Richardson looking to find out all of their Frankford holdings. I’m not sure, but I think the BRT’s website is old, I already emailed Ms Richardson looking to find out all of their Frankford holdings.

]]> By: Lorraine http://frankfordgazette.com/2010/04/20/new-frankford-community-y-stakeholders-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-8318 Lorraine Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:17:00 +0000 http://frankfordgazette.com/?p=4964#comment-8318 NFD are not listed as the owners of the apartment complex next to the Y. NFD are not listed as the owners of the apartment complex next to the Y.

]]> By: Jim http://frankfordgazette.com/2010/04/20/new-frankford-community-y-stakeholders-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-8317 Jim Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:05:30 +0000 http://frankfordgazette.com/?p=4964#comment-8317 The community center will be requesting grants. The management of NFD will be sitting on the non profits board I suppose. The community center will be requesting grants. The management of NFD will be sitting on the non profits board I suppose.

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